megwrites: Shakespeared! Don't be afraid to talk Elizabethan, or Kimberlian, or Meredithian! (shakespeared!)
I just received a rejection for a query I sent in February.

I'm caught between being very amused at the eight month gap and slightly bewildered that the agent (or agent's assistant) bothered. Not to downplay that it's a really nice gesture, because it is, it's just that -

a) I think one can assume that after eight months, the agent either was not interested or too busy to take on a new client or both. Which, you know, fair enough. I'm of the school of thought that I'd rather an agent turn me down when their plate is full and concentrate on their clients than try to take me on and have me get lost in the shuffle because they have ten gazillion things to do and people to deal with.

b) That's time out of someone's day to write (or at least cut-n-paste) and send the email (and probably many others)

So thank you, agent. It wasn't necessary, but it was nice of you. I like your style, and hope we get to work together in the future. If I ever have something that's more up your alley, I'll send it your way.
megwrites: Shakespeared! Don't be afraid to talk Elizabethan, or Kimberlian, or Meredithian! (shakespeared!)
My computer is finally starting to say it's long goodbye, which is putting a cramp in how much writing I can get done. Cut for those who do not care about my technological woes )

Woke up to a rejection in the inbox. It was a very nice form rejection that included an apology for sending a form rejection. It made me smile, because while that's a very sweet gesture, I don't think any agent should feel the need to apologize for a form rejection. The fact that you bother to send any notification of rejection is actually quite generous on your part. So it's like saying, "I apologize for being extra nice!"

Query Score Card update time! The score is changing not only to reflect the rejections I've gotten, but that I found yet another agent who accepts fantasy that I missed when I re-checked.

Requests - 2 (1 full, 1 partial)

Rejections - 3

Timed Out - 0 (from round 3. All of round 2 has timed out, rejected, or requested)

Still Pending - 4


I'm thinking of posting the agents I've found, thus far, that accept SF/F fiction along with a more specific list of what they have/do accept. I know other lists like this are out there, so would it be helpful to anyone else if I did this or no?

I've found that a lot of agents who will look kindly on vampires, werewolves and leather-clad heroines have no interest in science fiction or higher end fantasy, and I think it's a bit deceptive on the part of some search engines to say that a writer accepts "fantasy" - because that's like saying, for example, that Scott Lynch and Laurell K. Hamilton are writing the exact same thing and if you've ever read The Lies of Locke Lamora or any of the Merry Gentry or Anita Blake series, you know they're not.
megwrites: Shakespeared! Don't be afraid to talk Elizabethan, or Kimberlian, or Meredithian! (shakespeared!)
I came across this post, entitled "Agent Query Policies: Stop the Griping" by Rachelle Gardner this morning while making my way around the usual places on the internet.

It's a good post. It's healthy for writers dealing with the inevitable frustration and teeth grinding anxiety that comes with submitting to remember that agents are busy, busy people. Long response times (or no response) is not a deliberate slight on their part. They're dealing with a day that only has 24 hours in it, and well, there's just only so much any human can do - and I do not think there is a single agent who deliberately keeps a longer response time than necessary or who withholds a response just to spite a writer. Non-response and long response times are the nature of the beast.

Remembering that agents are not trying to be rude can help with the frustration.

There is also a very important warning in that post, if you scroll down in comments. Agent Colleen Lindsay says, in this comment on the post,

I rejected a manuscript that I had been seriously considering last week because upon a cursory online search, I found a LiveJournal post by the author badmouthing me and several of my colleagues for what she thought were excessive response times. Well, that blog post cost her representation from at least one agent. (OH, and it was a LOCKED LibeJournal post. You do know that Google Reader doesn't respect locked posts, right? Well, you do now.)



This an extremely good warning to writers, and to all LiveJournal folk.

a) Google Reader does not respect locked posts at all. So what you think is private may not be private at all

and

b) Agents are reading your blog, they are paying attention, and they are Googling you. Be careful what you say on the internet, even when you think it's private.

That comment has scared the crap out of me. I don't think I've ever said anything that can be construed as badmouthing any particular agents, it definitely gave me pause. I wonder if my strong opinions have cost me representation. Have any agents looked at my blog and said, "Wow, this woman is mouthy and obnoxious. Reject!"

Some things I wouldn't mind getting rejected over. If an agent is so opposed to the idea that I fully and vocally support same-sex marriage rights, for example, its best we never work together.

Other things are not so simple. I was very outspoken about criticizing the proposed "new adult" category from St. Martin's, including being very critical of posts made about it. BTW, S. Jae-Jones earned a lot of respect from me for her response to my posts. I was probably far too harsh in some respects, but she handled it with considerable grace.

If an agent read those posts would they believe I'm difficult to work with?

If you are one of the agents who has or ever will have something by me under consideration, I'd like to say: I'm actually easy to work with. I take editorial direction well, I don't expect you to return calls or emails instantly, I understand that you're busy, I'm open to having anything I write torn apart for the sake of a better story, and I do try to conduct myself as a professional.

In the future, I'm definitely going to be twice as mindful of what I say online, even when I think it's private. Also, I'm possibly going to lodge a complaint with Google Reader for not respecting locked posts.

If you're also a writer querying about? I'd recommend the same.
megwrites: Shakespeared! Don't be afraid to talk Elizabethan, or Kimberlian, or Meredithian! (shakespeared!)
Got a super nice rejection in the inbox last night on one of the two fulls that's still circulating around. The agent said she loved a lot of things about it, but just couldn't put her full passion behind it.

This brings the score card to:


Requests - 2 (1 full, 1 partial)

Rejections - 8

Timed Out - 6

Still Pending - 0


Which means that round two is hanging by a thread. I don't intend to do another round of querying for this novel if it bats zero again, because I feel that I've revised and edited and reworked the story as much as I can. I look back on it and I still am not sure what I could change that significantly that would make the novel different enough to deserve re-querying it.

I've gotten a lot of "I loved so much about it, but..." which tells me that there's something good in the novel, and maybe some of that "I just can't give it enough passion" is more of a "I have no idea how I'd sell this sucker."

Of course, I could be telling myself that to feel better, but hey. Until someone tells me different, I may as well preserve what's left of my self esteem, right?

Plus, the pool of agents who even want to deal with fantasy is quite limited and I do think in this market there may not be anyone willing to take the chance on an unpublished author with no record.

So should it bat zero, I will start really researching and considering plans to podcast/post the novel. Because I want the story out there and I pretty much knew I wouldn't make any money on it to begin with. Thoughts anyone?
megwrites: Shakespeared! Don't be afraid to talk Elizabethan, or Kimberlian, or Meredithian! (shakespeared!)
This piece on GalleyCat asking Agents? Who needs 'em? sparked off a lot of controversy across the publishing sphere. The article posed the question about whether agents are becoming obsolete (or already are) with the advent of things like eBooks and Kindle.

I have to admit there was something of an anti-agent tone running through the piece, and there have been a lot of rebuttals:

Author Stacia Kane said: Yes, Virginia, you need an agent

Author Jeaniene Frost had some words to say as well

Miriam Goderich of the Dystel and Goderich Literary Agency responded that she also thinks agents are necessary an not going anywere

My thoughts on the subject, let me show them to you. Or, the answer is not a Yes/No dichotomy. )
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
Last night an agent emailed to request the full manuscript. I duly fired it off to him ASAP, and now I'm waiting on pins and needles for his reply.

Which brings the Query Score Card up to:


Rejections - 7

Requests - 3

Timed Out - 6

Still Pending - 3


And now is it nice to have some good news right now. Because it's been raining for two days solid and I'm very sore from trying new exercises and feel a bit crappy and still have a buttload left to write on Soul Machines before I move on to outlining my NaNoWriMo novel -- and really all I want to do curl up under a blanket and sit on the couch and watch reruns of Hu$tle or Leverage or something. Because only watching ridiculously hot people commit fabulous, over-plotted heists can heal my wounded soul.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
How NOT to be a professional.

I'm getting tired of seeing other writers, especially aspiring ones like myself, take such an oppositional tack when it comes to agents. For all that agents are accused of thinking of us writers as barely worthwhile scum on their shoes, it seems like plenty of authors feel the same way about agents.

Plus, have you ever heard of a writer arguing with a rejection and getting a positive result? Getting representation? Getting a book deal? I haven't yet, and I'd be surprised if it's ever happened in the history of modern publishing.

When it comes to dealing rejection, I suggest allowing yourself to feel what you're feeling. After nearly 35 rejections (since April) of the current novel out on query, I certainly am feeling a lot of things, not all of them warm and fuzzy. Feel frustrated, upset, depressed, even angry. But no matter what you feel. No matter how sorely disappointed you are, ACT professionally.

Your feelings are your own, and I don't believe in listening to anyone who tells you what is and isn't right to feel. I don't believe in telling writers, "don't take it personally". Telling a writer not to take it personally is like telling water not to be wet. You invest years of your life in something, it's personal. Feeling like you're helpless when it comes to the fate of a manuscript you've had total control over can send you around the bend.

However, these feelings should not dictate your actions. Be as emotional as you like, but do not ACT out of those emotions. Act out of professionalism. And for the record? Professionalism is just another word for mutual respect. Your feelings are not an agent's business, but your actions are. There's no rule that says that you must actually be smiling on the inside when you grin and bear it - but that doesn't excuse you from grinning and bearing it like an adult.

Whether or not you feel professional, act that way. Because that's how you'll become one.

Speaking of rejections, I got a shiny new one in the inbox. This brings the Query Score Card up to:


Rejections: 7

Requests: 1

Timed Out: 2

Still Pending: 8


ETA: Borked math on the Query Score Card.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
I just got a request for the first thirty pages of my novel from an agent. They said my project sounded "intriguing". That's right, intriguing.

Aww man, I needed this so badly it's not funny. Even if it ends in a "sorry, not right for me" in my inbox, it's nice to know that I'm still in the running. That agents are still reading and even taking on clients still. Hope is not completely futile. Only, like, 98% futile. There's still a 2% chance that things won't end badly!

This brings the Query Score Card up to:

Rejections: 6

Requests: 1 (WAHOOOO!!!!!)

Timed Out: 1

Still Pending: 10


Excuse me, I have to go fire my query out of a canon and onto an agent's desk and then find some celebratory chocolate because HELLS YES THIS CALLS FOR SOME COCOA-Y GOODNESS.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
After looking at the current query score card, I've made a few decisions regarding the fate of the Tower!Guy novel.

If there's no result by the end of the year, I'm going to either trash the Tower!Guy novel and forget it exists or podcast it in 2010 - but I'm not going to spend the next five years of my life grinding my teeth out of nervousness and checking my email obsessively every hour for a novel that, so far, nobody wants.

Maybe it's a good novel and the market sucks. Maybe it's not that good a novel. Either way, the result is the same.

If I seem a little angry about that, I am. Not at the agents for not recognizing my genius, because if the novel were any good, they wouldn't turn it down. Agents are not the problem.

I'm angry at myself and the story. I feel cheated. I poured my heart and soul into it. I really believed in it. I thought it was a damn good book. Apparently, it wasn't. I think I'm angry at myself for getting my hopes up, for being naive, for not realizing the story apparently sucked. I'm angry at myself for wasting precious time on a story that I can't convince anyone to read.

Frustrated Meg is frustrated, if you can't tell. And I knew this was going to be part of the process. So don't think I'm complaining or blaming anyone else. It's all on me.

Fortunately, I have other stories to tell. This was by no means my only shot. And I love writing. Even if I knew I wouldn't ever get published in my life time, I would still write. I love it. I need it. It's who I am. It's who I've always been. As sure as I'm a woman, I'm a writer.

But if I knew for certain that I'd never be professionally published in my lifetime, I'd just stick my stories up on a webpage, put out a paypal button, and have done with it. But it's the hope (delusion?) that I might be able to make a career out of it that keeps me from doing just that.

Hope is not always the warm fuzzy thing people think it is. Sometimes it's a ball and chain that keeps you tethered to something because you just can't let go. There's reason it was the monster in Pandora's Box.

But eternal hope is just eternal foolishness, so come the end of the year either I'll have some kind of result or I'll start fresh with new stories. Maybe I'll get luckier, maybe I'll be better, and maybe the market will be better.

But I can't keep hoping (as far as this novel goes) and I can't keep being angry at myself.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (sex goddess)
I'm back from Florida, yay! I read all my books on the airplane and did a few pages of writing on Soul Machines (the novel formerly known as UF!2girls), so I feel it was a productive trip. I've got a bunch of reviews to write up.

Plus, I got to meet [livejournal.com profile] fashionista_35 face to face, and yes. She is even more fabulous than she seems online, if that's possible. It was really nice to be able to talk shop with a fellow writer, and going into Barnes and Noble with her was a hoot! There is just nothing like scoping out the cover art and mocking the bad while oohing and jealousing over the good for entertainment.

I really need to get some writer friends here in NYC. I know I have a few people on my f-list who are writers or SF/F fen here in the Big Apple, but I've never met any. That's sad. I need to rectify this pronto.

I got two rejections and one that timed out from April that I was still sanguine about but have now abandoned. Both rejections were really polite form letters. This brings the Query Score Card up to:


Rejections: 5

Requests: 0

Timed Out: 1

Still Pending: 11


So, you've been duly updated on things as they stand. Because I'm sure you were all just holding your breath to know all that.

I'm still catching up on the f-list, but if anything really exciting, important, or otherwise noteworthy happened, please drop me a comment so I can know about it. Or just tell me how the state of you is going. What are you working on? How's your day/week/month/year been going?
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
Woke up to a rejection in my inbox this morning - nothing like seeing a polite form letter while you're still trying to get the grime out of your eyes.

Which makes the new Query Score Card status:

Rejections - 3

Requests - 0

Still Pending - 14

Timed Out - 0


In a fit of optimism, I'm taking a flash drive with the full manuscript on it plus some other stuff to Florida with me (I leave in about an hour for the airport) in case I get good news while I'm there. That would be really nice.

So, I'm off. I'll have intermittent internet access while I soak up the Florida humidity sunshine and make final wedding plans (A month and two days until I'm a married woman, woohoo!)
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
As you can guess from the icon and subject line, this isn't gonna be the happy post where I announce something good. One day, I'll make that post. One day. Just not this day.

Today I found a few more agents to query to and fired off emails to them, which resulted in me getting a rejection letter back thirty minutes later.

And it was a very snarky rejection and kind of unprofessional. Guess I caught somebody on a bad day. Sheesh. I mean, they couldn't even stick with the standard "Sorry, I'm not the right agent for this project" or a form letter and be done with it. Nope, they had to go for the personal touch.

So, the query score card stands at:

Rejections - 2

Requests - 0

Still Pending - 15

Query stuff

Sep. 2nd, 2009 05:34 pm
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (sex goddess)
I've found three more agents to submit to, so I fired off queries to them. I refuse to fail this time without having exhausted every option. Unfortunately, that means sending of queries and playing the Waiting Game - which may be the worst part of this entire writing thing.

Actually, I amend that. Rejections are the worst part. Of course, saying that is like saying having a hot poker jabbed into your eye is worse than being stung by 100,000 angry bees. It's all exceedingly unpleasant, but at least it's worth it whether I succeed or fail.

If I succeed, yay for me. I've climbed one insurmountable mountain and can now begin to contemplate how in the sweet lovely hell I'm going to surmount (mount?) the next one.

If I fail, well, I've learned something about either the market, the agents, my query letters, or the story itself and maybe all of the above. Which will serve me well next time.

On a side note, can I just say thank goodness my current project is urban fantasy? I swear there's a 20:1 ratio of agents for urban fantasy to agents for straight-up fantasy. It's really frustrating, let me tell you, internets. I'm wondering if that's a sign that the adult fantasy market is failing or if agents don't think it's the cool new thing anymore or what.

Right now I'm bracing for rejections and deciding what my next move should be. I don't think I can do any more with this novel as it is, and maybe it's served its purpose. Maybe it was just supposed to be a teaching tool for me. I can say I learned an amazing amount about editing and querying from it, so there's that.

I guess right now I'm asking myself if I can let this story go and move on to the next one, if I still have confidence in it. And honestly? I don't know the answer.

So, the revised Query Score Card stands at:

Rejections - 1

Requests - 0

Still Pending - 10


ETA: My math is severely borked. This is why I'm a writer, not an accountant.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
The query score on Agent Hunt Round 2 stands as follows (as of 1100 hours today):

Rejections - 1, Requests - 0, Offers - 0, Still Pending - 7

The rejection came the same day I sent off the queries. But it was from an agent who I wasn't holding my breath for. It was one of those "might as well" type queries. The four top agents on the list have not responded. Thus, my inbox is filled with the melodious sounds of crickets chirping.

It's the weekend, so I'm not surprised. I figure agents have those little things called "personal lives" that they're attending to - as well they should. I don't write 24/7, I don't expect them to agent 24/7, either.

My hope is that it will mean they are well rested and in a generous mood when reading queries on Monday.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
The queries for Round 2 of the agent hunt have now left my inbox and are packeting their way towards various inboxes. Whatever happens, I still love writing. I still want to do this. And I'm still glad, even if they all come back as rejections, that I tried.

I will now go have lunch and bite my nails until I get the results back. Thank you, that is all.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
So, I think I've done what needs to be done before I fire off the query canon and hope something comes back to me that isn't a rejection. The list is mostly for my own use, but if anyone sees any steps I've left out, please let me know.


- Researched agent names? Check.

- Researched agent guidelines? Check.

- Gone over manuscript with fine tooth comb? Check.

- Revised query? Check.

- Revised query again? Check.

- Revised query a third time? Check.

- Asked for and received excellent query help from f-list? Check.

- Learned that my f-list is full of awesome people? Double check.

- Done a last check to make sure that the agent names and salutations are correct in the letters? Check.

- Prepared samples asked for by agents in their guidelines in requested formats? Check.

- Sent letters? Still pending.


I'm going to give myself until Thursday to go through the checklist yet again (you can't ever be too careful) and then I'm going to send them out and get back to work on my current project.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
I know I've said this before, but I think it bears repeating. I really, really, really wish some agents would be more specific about what they want or do not want, especially if they don't accept e-queries.

Before anyone thinks I'm ranting about how terrible agents are (they aren't!), this is a problem with some agents, not all. Most agents have submissions guidelines that are easily found and very specific. I appreciate those agents. A lot.

Some agents, however...

I wish agents would make sure their AgentQuery, PublishersMarketplace, and LitMatch listings are specific and accurate. So many have several (or every) fiction genre listed, but very demonstrably - and by demonstrably, I mean looking at their client lists and recent sales - only represent one or two types of books. A literary book about angsty ghosts is not the same as fantasy or horror or mystery. They're not even on the same side of the bookstore! Why in the world does your page list every conceivable genre when your client list is telling me that you've probably never picked up an SF/F book in your life? Why?

I don't know whether this is because of the way that AQ, PM, and LM list agents or how the form is filled out, but it's problematic.

Especially when that agent doesn't have a website, blog, or other place where I can see their guidelines. Or the ones who like to add a little Vague Sauce. You know the ones I'm talking about. The ones where the agent says something like, "I'm looking for a book that stands out from the rest and sweeps the reader away! I want something with a unique voice and an interesting perspective!"

Which makes me say, "Yeah, that's real cute. So, do you represent SF/F or not?"

I used to get mad every time I saw submissions guidelines saying, "Absolutely no SF/F! No vampires or werewolves!" Now? I want to thank those for being straightforward and specific. Once I know that they don't want to pick up what I'm throwing down? I can hit the back button and save us both some very precious time.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
The queries to the agents have been written, but not sent. They're sitting in the drafts folder of my email. I'm going to take a break for lunch and come back to give them one last looking over before I send them out.

I think moon walking is a pretty apt metaphor for the process of querying, at least for me. Walking on the moon is a big moment. It's glorious, perilous, and strangely tedious. It's also the culmination of a lot of work over many years. From the barest outlines to the training to the revising to the last minute details. And that's just what it takes to get in the damn rocket.

More than that, the moonwalk is not the end of the process, rather it's just the middle. Because the point isn't to get to the moon, the point is to get to the moon and come back alive. So you can't just shoot a monkey into space, you have to retrieve the monkey. And that's the tricky part.

The point isn't just to write a novel and query an agent. The point is to write a novel, query an agent, and get the agent to say "Yes, I love it!" and then to get the agent to get an editor to say, "Do Want! Here have this big pile of cash and a three book deal!" Or something like that.

So this is only half the trip. Here's to not burning up horribly in the atmosphere or skipping off into space never to be heard from again!
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
I'm still gathering research, and building my spreadsheet o' doom for this time around on the Merry-Go-Agent.

I think I might be ready to go, after another run through of my query letter, synopsis, and the manuscript by the end of this week. I'm trying to build up my confidence so I can do this without devolving into a nervous wreck.

I got a lot of progress done on the UF!2girls novel, but I realize that editing this thing is going to be hell on wheels, because there's so much stuff that I need to cut out, other stuff I know now I need to add, and yet other things that just need to be plain old rewritten.

The wordcount is getting heavy because I'm at 80k and little more than halfway through, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be able to cut out at least 40k. After all, I took a 123k draft down to 82k with the Tower!Guy novel, and I'm sure I can do at least that much for this novel.

Lately, I've been metaphorizing my writing by thinking of clay sculptures we used to do in art class at school. My teacher told us that the first stages were about sticking everything on, and then you shave things down and smooth them out, but first you have to get the basic form. That seems reasonable right now. I'm letting myself stick lumps of text here and there, knowing I'll go back with the refining tools to make it all come together attractively and it'll be an editing problem later on.

Also, it helps to make editing notes and stick them somewhere for later use.
megwrites: Reading girl by Renoir.  (Default)
I spent the better part of today doing intensive research on agents, and I managed to find a handful that I somehow missed on the first go.

I also found some pretty good stuff, so I figured I'd share the wealth.

Agents who rep SF/F thread at AbsoluteWrite.com - You'll have to fast forward to the bottom of the thread to see the most recent entries, but I gleaned a few very good names from there. As always, do your research. Some of the info on the forum may not be accurate, but it's nice to know actually does SF/F, not just who lists it at AgentQuery or LitMatch.

Colleen Lindsay is opening to submissions again. Colleen is a superb agent and a great person. Read the guidelines very carefully, though. She's only opening to certain things, but if you fit the things she's looking for, I would definitely submit.

10 Literary Agents Who Represent SF/F. Most of these are the really biggest and best agents working the field, but it's probably a good starting point for anyone looking for agents. And hey, it was nice to know that I was thorough the first time around (I queried way more than ten, though).

A list of agents who represent at least three living SF/F writers. It's a good list, though there are a few sticking points. Some of the agents are no longer with the agencies listed, some are moving away from SF/F, one or two of agents and/or agency is defunct, if I remember correctly. But it's not a bad starting point if you just need some names and a direction to go in.

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags